The LGBT+ heavy metal podcast this week is joined by Orion, the vocalist in Ilsa, a Washington, DC-based metal band who've had multiple queer members over the years, and at one stage, were a majority-queer band. Tom talks to Orion about his experience of that, and about hiding queer references in plain sight just like Rob Halford did so well. They also talk about dodging neo-Nazi gangs in the American capital city, the US' problem with violence against transwomen (especially transwomen of colour), and about being the type of queens we want to be. This week's Camp Classic is Dream Theater's signature tune 'Pull Me Under', and how both Tom and Matt drew very similar queer meanings from the same song. Plus the albums for Hate Crew Gaybar this week are Sunnata's Burning In Heaven, Melting On Earth, and Krononota by In Tormentata Quiete. Because apparently Matt really does want to make Tom sound as ignorant as possible. There's also a little follow-up from last week's show on metal's internet homophobia problem, and Matt follows through on his promise to inject as many mid-00s pop references as possible into the podcast. Also euphemisms, obviously.
The LGBT+ heavy metal podcast this week is joined by Orion, the vocalist in Ilsa, a Washington, DC-based metal band who've had multiple queer members over the years, and at one stage, were a majority-queer band.
Tom talks to Orion about his experience of that, and about hiding queer references in plain sight just like Rob Halford did so well. They also talk about dodging neo-Nazi gangs in the American capital city, the US' problem with violence against transwomen (especially transwomen of colour), and about being the type of queens we want to be.
This week's Camp Classic is Dream Theater's signature tune 'Pull Me Under', and how both Tom and Matt drew very similar queer meanings from the same song.
Plus the albums for Hate Crew Gaybar this week are Sunnata's Burning In Heaven, Melting On Earth, and Krononota by In Tormentata Quiete. Because apparently Matt really does want to make Tom sound as ignorant as possible.
There's also a little follow-up from last week's show on metal's internet homophobia problem, and Matt follows through on his promise to inject as many mid-00s pop references as possible into the podcast. Also euphemisms, obviously.